without plane-tickets to get a visa by China Embassy

You can't get a tourist visa from China embassy in Netherlands if you don't plane tickets.

The following 3 documents are all required for tourist visa application in Netherlands. Please buy plane tickets and book hotel in Netherlands, then go to Indonesia.
Air tickets booking records (round trip);
Hotel reservation;
Itinerary;

Hello Helper, thank you very much for your help. I don't buy plane ticket in Netherlands because here is very expensive, i must first going to Indonesia (my family live there), i will from Netherlands to China-Indonesia and than retour Netherland or Netherlands-Indonesia-China and than Netherlands (just 1 week to Beijing, because we have just 4 weeks vacation). The tickets in high season / july-august) very expensive in Netherlands(because all school and building worker have vacation. In the other seasons are no probleem), last year were are to Hongkong from Indonesia ( we bought tickets and hotel booking in Indonesia, really thats very cheap! We were without visum to Hongkong. Can my husband and my son get a tourist visum from China embassy in Indonesia?. Thanks for your help

C. v.d.Braak, according to your situation, your husband and son can try to apply for China tourist visa in Indonesia,

The requirements for an applicant applying a tourist visa to China:
1) Itinerary
i. Please list the purpose of your visit to each of your destination city on a time sequence.
ii.The itinerary should be signed by the applicant or the messenger. Duty stamp is not required.
iii.A travel group can share one (1) itinerary with their name list on it if they will travel together.

2)Hotel Reservation.You should provide the printout of online booking or the hotel voucher registered with the applicant’s name.

3) Round Trip Air Ticket. You should provide the printout of online booking ticket or the copy of ticket.

4) passport

5) visa application form V.2011A and V.2011B

6) one recent passport photo

7) valid Indonesia visa or Indonesian entry record on the Dutch passport. The marriage certificate and birth certificate to prove the relationship between you and them are helpful for their visa application.

The first three documents are required to provide since the from January 1st, 2012. It is an updated regulation on L-visa, coming into effect from January 1st, 2012.

Hello Norman,
thank you very much for your advice / information, that is very important for me, i shall do that.