hi patrick,i sure am amzed with how you guys reply.am truly impressed.as for the hotel reservations in zhuhai,we will look for 1 once we get there.we were adviced that there are so many reasonably priced hotels out there.will that affect our apllication for a visa?where do we get application forms?is it on a personal appearance per applicant at the chinese embassy or will a submission as a group be alright? once again thank you too patrick for your prompt response. kudos and my hats off to you guys..am truly impressed...edwin